This past summer, a grand jury indicted Joshua Gouker for murdering his stepson, 14-year-old Trey Zwicker. Gouker's son 16-year-old Joshua Young was re-indicted for the same murder.
Young is accused of beating Trey to death with a baseball bat. His body was found by a group of students behind Liberty High School in May of last year.
Gouker was also indicted for the torture of a dog or cat, possession of a handgun by a convicted felon, and being a persistent felony offender.
On Wednesday, WDRB News obtained audio of a phone call between Gouker and what is purportedly his brother. The phone call came while Gouker was incarcerated in the Floyd County Jail.
Near the beginning of the call, Gouker breaks the news to his brother that he's been charged with murder and expresses shock.
"I know," his brother replies. "Josh told me today."
"That's [EXPLETIVE] crazy, dog," Gouker says. "I was with Amanda the whole time...how the [EXPLETIVE] can they do that?"
"How can they charge both of you guys?" his brother asks, referring to Gouker and Young. "Isn't it one or the other?"
"That's what I'm saying!" Gouker replies. "I don't [EXPLETIVE] know, man. I didn't even know until I seen the [EXPLETIVE] on TV!"
The conversation continues. Gouker's brother promises to pray for him. Then Gouker asks his brother to send him some money so he can buy a phone card to keep calling him from jail.
"By the time we send it, you'll probably be gone!" his brother says.
"[EXPLETIVE]," Gouker says. "I don't know, man. I don't know."
A moment later, he adds:
"I mean, who am I to say [EXPLETIVE?] I can't say, [EXPLETIVE!] They just got me on murder, dog!"
At this, Gouker can be heard breaking out into laughter.
"Yeah, that's crazy, dude," his brother says.
"I know!" Gouker replies.
The conversation then turns to an accusation that Gouker killed a dog.
"Hey, what did you do?" his brother asks. "Did you kill the dog or something?"
Gouker replies that he did.
"Why did you do that, man?"
"Because it kept [EXPLETIVE] on everything, man!" Gouker replies.
In August, Gouker attempted to plead guilty to Zwicker's death during his arraignment, but the judge quickly cut him off and his public defender entered a plea of "not guilty." He has since been ordered to undergo a psychiatric evaluation.