EXCLUSIVE: David Camm Speaks - Part II
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- After 13 years and three trials, a jury found David Camm not guilty of the murders of his wife and two children.
During an interview with WDRB's Stephan Johnson, for the first time, Camm revealed what he believes happened the night his family was killed. Camm says he is convinced that Charles Boney killed his family, but he doesn't think Boney acted alone.
"Are you confident that Charles Boney is the person who did this by himself?" WDRB's Stephan Johnson asked.
"Yes and no," Camm said. "Yes, I am confident that he's the person who killed my family. I am not convinced that he did it by himself."
It is perhaps the only thing that David Camm and the three men who have prosecuted him agree on: there was a second person in the garage of his Georgetown, Ind. home in Sept. 2000, when Kim, Brad and Jill were murdered.
"I believe that his girlfriend, Mala Singh Mattingly, was there also," Camm said. "I say that based upon evidence -- evidence that is factually documented, sworn testimony that says that she was there."
But three prosecutors have tried to prove that Camm was the other person in the garage, despite testimony from 11 men who swore they were playing basketball with him during the murders.
"Did you know Charles Boney before this?" Johnson asked.
"Absolutely not," Camm said. "Never heard the name Charles Boney."
Charles Boney, who is now a convicted killer and known liar, tells a different story. He says he met Camm playing basketball and was hired to provide an untraceable gun.
"But I had never heard the name Charles Boney before, I've never met the man," Camm said. "And if that were the case, and there were anything other than that, there would be some factual proof for the police to assert that. And it doesn't exist, and they know that."
"His family, his mother, his girlfriend at the time, anyone who knows him has said Charles didn't play basketball, Charles didn't even own a pair of tennis shoes," Camm said. "He doesn't look like much of a basketball player to me."
But that's the story Boney has stuck with from the moment he was arrested. He even says after killing his family, Camm pointed the gun at him but it jammed. That's when he says he chased Camm into the garage and stumbled over Kim's shoes.
"Now we can work this thing from back to front if you want as far as the stupidity of it all," Camm said. "But let's start right there because you used the word 'stumble.' He says he's chasing after me and that Kim's shoes are lying on the garage floor and that he stumbles over them...to the point where he trips and falls and that's how he explains the marks and scrapes on his knees and hands."
"Are you kidding me?" Camm said. "I mean, come on! First he's going to trip over Kim's shoes to the point of falling to where he causes these injuries. Then he says, 'Well, I didn't want anyone else to trip over them,' so he picks 'em up and he places them on top of the Bronco."
"Then let's back up," Camm said. "He says, 'I tried to shoot him and the gun jammed.'"
"Listen, I've had countless, countless hours on how to unjam a semi-automatic pistol," Camm said. "I was on the SWAT team for six years, I could have done that in a second-and-a-half, Stephan."
Camm's story is much different. He claims he left the basketball game and returned home to find the bodies of his wife and two children in the garage. What he did next also raised suspicion.
"My thought process first was, 'These are my people," Camm said. "I needed help."
Instead of calling 911, Camm called his former police post.
"When I made that phone call, I was not only calling law enforcement, I was calling family," Camm said. "I thought I was calling people that would move the sun and moon to help me."
Camm says Boney's previous history and convictions speak for themselves.
"Eleven previous convictions for assaulting women," Camm noted. "That's what he has done his whole adult life, assaulted women."
"Charles Boney...where your house was located," Johnson said. "How would he get there? How would he end up back there? It's like, in the middle of nowhere, and here you have this African American..."
"Right..." Camm said.
"...who is just wandering over there," Johnson continued. "How does he get there without directions from somebody?"
"Well first off, again, we can't get into...you and I can't get into the mind of a psychopath," Camm said. "I think that Boney, perhaps, ran into Kim at Karems [Meat Market], in New Albany. They cross paths."
Camm says the first time he and Boney crossed paths was in jail.
"Someone had came into the cellblock where I was and told me that he was in the library area," Camm said. "The doors were open. I went out of the doors, tried to get into the library area where he was. The door was locked."
"So I went around to a windowed area and started banging on the window, yelling and screaming at him...telling him that I knew who he was, I knew what he had done, I knew what he'd done to my family," Camm said.
If it was the first face-to-face meeting between the two, it would not be the last. Boney was brought in to testify in Camm's third trial -- and once again, there were some tense moments in the courtroom.
"You know, I'm sitting there, and I'm looking at the person that killed my family," Camm said. "He obviously has no remorse...when I first came in and sat down and he was sitting there looking at me and he was nodding his head like this. And I took that to mean him telling me, 'Yeah, I killed your family, and now I am going to take you out too."
But Camm's future would soon be in the hands of another jury, not Boney. And after deliberating for just a few days, there was a verdict.
"We had discussed the possibility of an early verdict and we thought that that would be good for us," Camm said. "So when I got the notice that the jury was back, I was feeling hopeful."
"It's an incredible position to be in, you know, waiting those few seconds to hear those words and not knowing your fate, but then actually hearing them and then realizing that this is finally actually happening after 13 years, it was overwhelming," Camm said.
Camm was quickly escorted out of the Boone County Courthouse into his new life.
"I saw you crack a slight smile as you were getting into the car and I had never seen you smile before," Johnson said. "And I don't think I have stopped smiling since, Stephan. Thirteen years, man...13 years."
Right now, David Camm has a lot of plans for the future, including a potential wrongful conviction lawsuit against the state of Indiana.
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