This video contains two distinct portions of a deposition given by J. David Grissom, former chairman of the University of Louisville board of trustees, on July 26, 2019 in the financial fraud lawsuit the university has filed against its former president, James Ramsey. In the first segment, Grissom is questioned by Ann Oldfather, attorney for former Ramsey chief of staff Kathleen Smith. In the second segment, Grissom is questioned by Steve Pence, Ramsey's attorney.